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Hey everyone!
Have not had any time to get my journal updated between Christmas and Christmas work hours. 100 hours worked in 12 days has me set behind.
I don't have any photos to share with you but I wanted to give you a little update on the root issue
So as we know it looks like I had a rot starting, there was slime on the roots and the res was hitting up to 25C
I have added H2O2 to the res which never seemed to help any. Was thinking of just dipping the roots in the H2O2 for a while to see if it helps...never did that yet...not sure if I should...
I took the plant to the tub and I ran water over the roots directly, using my hands that were well sterilized I began to very gently remove the slime. It seems most of the slime is removed from the plants roots, its something I will do again in a few days.
Now...I learned something last night. Maybe it is just luck but here is what happened....
I have been feeding my plants a nutrient solution from Green Planet. You can see it in the video on the 1st post. There was a lot going into the res. I know this caused the browning of my roots, and its organic and its recommended to not use H2O2 with this nutrient solution. I have been monitoring my res temps daily and they have been between 23.5 to 25C. So I started added frozen bottles of water twice a day. This brings the temps down to 21.5 which I am more than happy with.
When it was time to change my res (2 days ago) I decided to NOT use the nutrient solution from Green Planet. I cleaned the res, did the ph thing and I decided this time to go with my 3 part Advanced Nutrients (Micro, Grow, Bloom). As soon as I put the solution in the res I noticed the res mas much clearer and I could actually see the bottom. PH was dialed in at 5.85-5.90 without any ph up/down (its the Perfect PH Technology from AN)
Now for the mind blowing results...the temps of the rest went down and has stayed at 21.5C. It appears that the nutrient solution I was using was causing my res to heat up. I had no idea that this was even possible, but I guess with everything in the res, the reaction causes heat. So I have not added any more of the Green Planet nutes and I went straight with AN. So far, my temps are low and have not spiked any. I have bottles ready just in case.
Have any of you ever experienced this? I had no idea that nutrients can cause temp changes in the res. With AN I am seeing more responsive plants, my roots are still a work in progress but the temps are down and there is no slime as of now. Only slime that may be in the res could be within the growing pebbles. May run some water through her to see if I can push any out without actually removing the pebbles and causing other issues. The tap root touches the bottom of the pot now I am hoping for some root development.
I probably wont see much root development as I switched to flower last week. I am guessing roots don't grow much when in flower...could be wrong but time will tell
That's all I got. Would love your feedback on this and if you ever experienced nutes causing your res to heat up.
Have not had any time to get my journal updated between Christmas and Christmas work hours. 100 hours worked in 12 days has me set behind.
I don't have any photos to share with you but I wanted to give you a little update on the root issue
So as we know it looks like I had a rot starting, there was slime on the roots and the res was hitting up to 25C
I have added H2O2 to the res which never seemed to help any. Was thinking of just dipping the roots in the H2O2 for a while to see if it helps...never did that yet...not sure if I should...
I took the plant to the tub and I ran water over the roots directly, using my hands that were well sterilized I began to very gently remove the slime. It seems most of the slime is removed from the plants roots, its something I will do again in a few days.
Now...I learned something last night. Maybe it is just luck but here is what happened....
I have been feeding my plants a nutrient solution from Green Planet. You can see it in the video on the 1st post. There was a lot going into the res. I know this caused the browning of my roots, and its organic and its recommended to not use H2O2 with this nutrient solution. I have been monitoring my res temps daily and they have been between 23.5 to 25C. So I started added frozen bottles of water twice a day. This brings the temps down to 21.5 which I am more than happy with.
When it was time to change my res (2 days ago) I decided to NOT use the nutrient solution from Green Planet. I cleaned the res, did the ph thing and I decided this time to go with my 3 part Advanced Nutrients (Micro, Grow, Bloom). As soon as I put the solution in the res I noticed the res mas much clearer and I could actually see the bottom. PH was dialed in at 5.85-5.90 without any ph up/down (its the Perfect PH Technology from AN)
Now for the mind blowing results...the temps of the rest went down and has stayed at 21.5C. It appears that the nutrient solution I was using was causing my res to heat up. I had no idea that this was even possible, but I guess with everything in the res, the reaction causes heat. So I have not added any more of the Green Planet nutes and I went straight with AN. So far, my temps are low and have not spiked any. I have bottles ready just in case.
Have any of you ever experienced this? I had no idea that nutrients can cause temp changes in the res. With AN I am seeing more responsive plants, my roots are still a work in progress but the temps are down and there is no slime as of now. Only slime that may be in the res could be within the growing pebbles. May run some water through her to see if I can push any out without actually removing the pebbles and causing other issues. The tap root touches the bottom of the pot now I am hoping for some root development.
I probably wont see much root development as I switched to flower last week. I am guessing roots don't grow much when in flower...could be wrong but time will tell
That's all I got. Would love your feedback on this and if you ever experienced nutes causing your res to heat up.
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Re: Island growers 1st DWC condensed
Here are a few photos of the grow so far
Even though we had some root issues, the plant does seem pretty healthy and no signs of issues on top.
I did flip the switch to 12/12 on December 25th Christmas Day - Still no white pistils..but they can appear quickly so not worried yet.
This plant is very short and bushy. I did FIM and Topping on her so when stretch kicks in I look forward to seeing what I have to work with
Although short and bushy it kinda looks like it was tied down where the canopy is fairly flat and even, this will probably change when stretch is in full gear!





Even though we had some root issues, the plant does seem pretty healthy and no signs of issues on top.
I did flip the switch to 12/12 on December 25th Christmas Day - Still no white pistils..but they can appear quickly so not worried yet.
This plant is very short and bushy. I did FIM and Topping on her so when stretch kicks in I look forward to seeing what I have to work with
Although short and bushy it kinda looks like it was tied down where the canopy is fairly flat and even, this will probably change when stretch is in full gear!





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So things are moving along nicely, at least I have myself believing they are haha
With all the root issues that I had, I am surprised the plant is still functional, I may have got my hands on this issue just in time, with some washing of the roots, some frozen bottles for lower temps, change in nutes and adding H2O2 I think we have it nailed down.
The roots are not great looking and I refuse to take a photo for here, but one thing I will say is that roots are growing, there are bright white roots growing top to bottom, the rest are brown from the previous issues and with the new H2O2 solution I have gotten today, I am hoping it will clear it up. Either way lets get on with the show!
Last night I took the girl out to examine and as much as I never wanted to, I gave her a trimming. She is week officially 14 days from switch to 12/12, after moving a few leaves I seen all sorts of opportunities for growth so I said f*@k it and decided to make away with them. There was not a whole lot removed, just enough to allow light on the branches with some sites that were visible.
Here are some shots of the plant before any trimmings






For a plant that has been through hell and back she is green and is alive!
Now for some shots of her after I had opened her up...





As you can tell from the last photo, you can see what leaves were removed. Not a lot, maybe a handful, and it opened her up all over.
I have to say, I was not expecting my plant to be so short and bushy as this. The plant grows more width than height. I read this can be triggered when using FIM. I did FIM & 1 topping. So far there has not been a great deal of stretch, maybe she wont grow big, but hopefully the buds will!
Have read about people removing lower areas where popcorn buds grow, once I know stretch is over, I will be removing the bottoms small parts where the popcorn grows so the energy can be sent to other areas for better bud development.
Fingers crossed all goes well and we have a great ending to this crazy story!
Until next time...smoke em if ya got em!
With all the root issues that I had, I am surprised the plant is still functional, I may have got my hands on this issue just in time, with some washing of the roots, some frozen bottles for lower temps, change in nutes and adding H2O2 I think we have it nailed down.
The roots are not great looking and I refuse to take a photo for here, but one thing I will say is that roots are growing, there are bright white roots growing top to bottom, the rest are brown from the previous issues and with the new H2O2 solution I have gotten today, I am hoping it will clear it up. Either way lets get on with the show!
Last night I took the girl out to examine and as much as I never wanted to, I gave her a trimming. She is week officially 14 days from switch to 12/12, after moving a few leaves I seen all sorts of opportunities for growth so I said f*@k it and decided to make away with them. There was not a whole lot removed, just enough to allow light on the branches with some sites that were visible.
Here are some shots of the plant before any trimmings






For a plant that has been through hell and back she is green and is alive!
Now for some shots of her after I had opened her up...





As you can tell from the last photo, you can see what leaves were removed. Not a lot, maybe a handful, and it opened her up all over.
I have to say, I was not expecting my plant to be so short and bushy as this. The plant grows more width than height. I read this can be triggered when using FIM. I did FIM & 1 topping. So far there has not been a great deal of stretch, maybe she wont grow big, but hopefully the buds will!
Have read about people removing lower areas where popcorn buds grow, once I know stretch is over, I will be removing the bottoms small parts where the popcorn grows so the energy can be sent to other areas for better bud development.
Fingers crossed all goes well and we have a great ending to this crazy story!
Until next time...smoke em if ya got em!
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Hey gang! If your still alive then I got a update...
As you know I have been battling with the roots. I was in a pretty tight spot where I though they would die at some point, but the tops just looks very good with no signs of bad health.
I was not seeing a whole lot of change on the roots for the week I was adding H2O2, even after rinsing the roots it was a slow process to remove the slime.
Things are looking much better. There is still a ways to go to get them in great shape, but they are producing new white roots, and the tops are flowering with no signs of death!
I wasn't going to post this image of my roots. Being my 1st Hydro ever I just wanted to read how I can prevent and fix the issue rather than showing everyone how bad this actually was. Below you will see the before and after of the roots. The after shot was taken yesterday


Here is our White Widow in flower mode. She was not showing a lot of white hairs/tops when I took the photos in my previous post. But 4 days later she is developing very nicely! Sorry for the slot with the LED's on, never had a chance to take her out during the time I was in there with her.

Roots could be healthier and I am working on it, but they could be a whole lot worse as well. No signs of root rot or slime on her anymore and I hope to keep it that way. Now if they will just start growing more :)
As you know I have been battling with the roots. I was in a pretty tight spot where I though they would die at some point, but the tops just looks very good with no signs of bad health.
I was not seeing a whole lot of change on the roots for the week I was adding H2O2, even after rinsing the roots it was a slow process to remove the slime.
Things are looking much better. There is still a ways to go to get them in great shape, but they are producing new white roots, and the tops are flowering with no signs of death!
I wasn't going to post this image of my roots. Being my 1st Hydro ever I just wanted to read how I can prevent and fix the issue rather than showing everyone how bad this actually was. Below you will see the before and after of the roots. The after shot was taken yesterday


Here is our White Widow in flower mode. She was not showing a lot of white hairs/tops when I took the photos in my previous post. But 4 days later she is developing very nicely! Sorry for the slot with the LED's on, never had a chance to take her out during the time I was in there with her.

Roots could be healthier and I am working on it, but they could be a whole lot worse as well. No signs of root rot or slime on her anymore and I hope to keep it that way. Now if they will just start growing more :)
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Hey everyone!!
Back for another update. Few things happened and 1 huge mistake..keep reading....
I received my order all except the automatic watering system, few more days before arrival.
I have had some new growth with the White Widow I got growing, the buds are starting to get developed, the tops are fuzze and getting a little bigger as each day goes by. I have no idea how this will yield, I will be happy with anything close to 1 ounce. With all the root problems I had, its doubtful.
Here is a few updated photos of the girl...




The plant has taken a strange shape and I am told its in genetics. There are 2 low branches that are budding, or at least have topw and are a lot lower than the rest. There was no training and this is how she grew. Was debating removing these 2 branches but will leave them there.
The new tent is all setup and shit do I have a lot of room now! Check out all that space

Huge mistake made last night. After I had everything setup and put back into the bit tent, I totally forgot to turn on my air pump for my res. All night it was left with no bubbles or oxygen. There was no issues with the plant, still looked fine, but omg what a scare. It could have been doomsday, and who knows, maybe when I get home from work it will be doomsday!
Thats all for now...smoke em if ya got em!
Back for another update. Few things happened and 1 huge mistake..keep reading....
I received my order all except the automatic watering system, few more days before arrival.
I have had some new growth with the White Widow I got growing, the buds are starting to get developed, the tops are fuzze and getting a little bigger as each day goes by. I have no idea how this will yield, I will be happy with anything close to 1 ounce. With all the root problems I had, its doubtful.
Here is a few updated photos of the girl...




The plant has taken a strange shape and I am told its in genetics. There are 2 low branches that are budding, or at least have topw and are a lot lower than the rest. There was no training and this is how she grew. Was debating removing these 2 branches but will leave them there.
The new tent is all setup and shit do I have a lot of room now! Check out all that space

Huge mistake made last night. After I had everything setup and put back into the bit tent, I totally forgot to turn on my air pump for my res. All night it was left with no bubbles or oxygen. There was no issues with the plant, still looked fine, but omg what a scare. It could have been doomsday, and who knows, maybe when I get home from work it will be doomsday!
Thats all for now...smoke em if ya got em!
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Morning everyone!
So today is day 28 since switching the lights. Not sure if I wanna count the first week as part of flowering where there were no signs of pistils.
I went in and got a couple photos of her tonight, sorry for the bad color it's taken in the tent, next time I will "hit the lights"



Now if you notice in the 1st picture, you can see that a couple buds are starting to turn orange already. Been reading it can happen if pollination happens, but she is a few weeks in so I am not worried.
She seems pretty healthy so far and I am still fighting with the water temps. Daily feeding of frozen H2O. Only a few weeks to go, learned a lot from this and will have the problem corrected for the next DWC grow :)
So today is day 28 since switching the lights. Not sure if I wanna count the first week as part of flowering where there were no signs of pistils.
I went in and got a couple photos of her tonight, sorry for the bad color it's taken in the tent, next time I will "hit the lights"



Now if you notice in the 1st picture, you can see that a couple buds are starting to turn orange already. Been reading it can happen if pollination happens, but she is a few weeks in so I am not worried.
She seems pretty healthy so far and I am still fighting with the water temps. Daily feeding of frozen H2O. Only a few weeks to go, learned a lot from this and will have the problem corrected for the next DWC grow :)
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Good morning everyone,
Another update with some photos and information.
As you know by reading this journal I have had issues with heat in my res and had some stages of root rot which I seemed to have gotten under control.
Now..I have setup my new grow tent. Its a monster when comparing to my old one. This thing is 4 X 4 X 6
I never had to add any frozen water bottles in the res for almost a week now. The temps in the room are down big time! I am getting a low of 17C and high of 23C
When I checked the water res temps I am getting 19C - 20.4C and no higher
A few things could have done this, either the new tent allowing more space/air without a chance of heat buildup. I also removed my big oscillating fan from the room, and I also covered the pebbles up so no light is getting in. Either way, whatever it was, the room gets chilly now and the res is under control! Onwards and upwards right
Here are some photos taken over the past 24 hours of the plant as its starting bud development. Still no real signs of buds yet, but we have pleanty of hairs! Some hairs have receeded and turned orange already, and was told this is genetics..nothing I am worried about at all compared to what I was dealing with.
Although she is looking good she is NOT smelling yet. There is no odor or smell coming out of that tent yet. Maybe when she starts to pack on some weight and actually start producing buds then we will notice a difference in smell. I can leave the doors open for a couple hours and you wouldnt even know I was growing anything.
For now, here are some shots of the beast. She looks yummy!











Another update with some photos and information.
As you know by reading this journal I have had issues with heat in my res and had some stages of root rot which I seemed to have gotten under control.
Now..I have setup my new grow tent. Its a monster when comparing to my old one. This thing is 4 X 4 X 6
I never had to add any frozen water bottles in the res for almost a week now. The temps in the room are down big time! I am getting a low of 17C and high of 23C
When I checked the water res temps I am getting 19C - 20.4C and no higher
A few things could have done this, either the new tent allowing more space/air without a chance of heat buildup. I also removed my big oscillating fan from the room, and I also covered the pebbles up so no light is getting in. Either way, whatever it was, the room gets chilly now and the res is under control! Onwards and upwards right
Here are some photos taken over the past 24 hours of the plant as its starting bud development. Still no real signs of buds yet, but we have pleanty of hairs! Some hairs have receeded and turned orange already, and was told this is genetics..nothing I am worried about at all compared to what I was dealing with.
Although she is looking good she is NOT smelling yet. There is no odor or smell coming out of that tent yet. Maybe when she starts to pack on some weight and actually start producing buds then we will notice a difference in smell. I can leave the doors open for a couple hours and you wouldnt even know I was growing anything.
For now, here are some shots of the beast. She looks yummy!











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Morning everyone,
Its been a couple days since the last post so here we are...
Not much to report, she is growing, not a whole lot of smell coming out yet, and there really is no realy looking buds to be seen, but she is very frosty and sparkly, she glitters in the light like snow glitter on a sunny day!
Here are some photos of the White Widow







Some hairs are orange but most are still white and sticking out like a horny female cannabis plant should lol
One thing to note, I did look into the buds, if you even wanna call them buds right now...and the trichomes that are visible are cloudy.
They are NOT clear, pure cloudy. The mushroom heads look like there is smoke in them, and there are some amber popping up, not a lot but I did see a few. Not really sure what to make of that because she still has a good ways to go yet and seems to be doing things way too early. The cylaxes are not really visible and nave not even started to swell, and all these hairs need to turn and start receding into the plant again, and that doesn't look like its happening anytime soon...I am giving her 3-5 weeks to harvest maybe longer.
I am very happy with the sugar production, she is getting frosty very fast. A few days ago she was not this glittery.
That's all for now...smoke em if ya got em!
Its been a couple days since the last post so here we are...
Not much to report, she is growing, not a whole lot of smell coming out yet, and there really is no realy looking buds to be seen, but she is very frosty and sparkly, she glitters in the light like snow glitter on a sunny day!
Here are some photos of the White Widow







Some hairs are orange but most are still white and sticking out like a horny female cannabis plant should lol
One thing to note, I did look into the buds, if you even wanna call them buds right now...and the trichomes that are visible are cloudy.
They are NOT clear, pure cloudy. The mushroom heads look like there is smoke in them, and there are some amber popping up, not a lot but I did see a few. Not really sure what to make of that because she still has a good ways to go yet and seems to be doing things way too early. The cylaxes are not really visible and nave not even started to swell, and all these hairs need to turn and start receding into the plant again, and that doesn't look like its happening anytime soon...I am giving her 3-5 weeks to harvest maybe longer.
I am very happy with the sugar production, she is getting frosty very fast. A few days ago she was not this glittery.
That's all for now...smoke em if ya got em!
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Hey everyone! It has been a while since I posted. Been away due to illness...but we are back and we are full force!!!
So had a issue with the plant when my wonderful other half helped out while I was in hospital. She accidently placed the bucket on top of my airstone air line and the plant never had any direct oxygen for 4 days or so. Just sitting in still water...so that meant more slime issues...god love her for trying and helping, not one big upset at her, shit happens. Roots are cleaned off and slime is gone again.
Now yesterday I received a gift from a worker who I had no idea was even into this stuff. We struck a conversation and one thing led to the next. I then found out he used HPS lighting, and told him my history with LED.
Next thing I know he leaves work, drives home and was waiting in his car outside work for me with a surprise. He donated his older 1000W HPS Ballast and HPS lamps. Blown away!
I set it up and wow wow wow, that light is wayyyy more intense than LED. It gets hot in that room now. Gotta figure a way to get temps down and I have a idea but time will tell. Temps are hitting up to 33C so if I can drop about 6 degrees I will be fine. It is in a sealed room with no windows so I got some playing to do.
Here are a couple updated photos of the Widow! We are in week # 6 of flower. Got a couple weeks to go. With this added light I am really hoping the last 2 weeks when she starts to fatten up that she will just explode on me.
Here is what we got so far - Pics taken last night


So had a issue with the plant when my wonderful other half helped out while I was in hospital. She accidently placed the bucket on top of my airstone air line and the plant never had any direct oxygen for 4 days or so. Just sitting in still water...so that meant more slime issues...god love her for trying and helping, not one big upset at her, shit happens. Roots are cleaned off and slime is gone again.
Now yesterday I received a gift from a worker who I had no idea was even into this stuff. We struck a conversation and one thing led to the next. I then found out he used HPS lighting, and told him my history with LED.
Next thing I know he leaves work, drives home and was waiting in his car outside work for me with a surprise. He donated his older 1000W HPS Ballast and HPS lamps. Blown away!
I set it up and wow wow wow, that light is wayyyy more intense than LED. It gets hot in that room now. Gotta figure a way to get temps down and I have a idea but time will tell. Temps are hitting up to 33C so if I can drop about 6 degrees I will be fine. It is in a sealed room with no windows so I got some playing to do.
Here are a couple updated photos of the Widow! We are in week # 6 of flower. Got a couple weeks to go. With this added light I am really hoping the last 2 weeks when she starts to fatten up that she will just explode on me.
Here is what we got so far - Pics taken last night


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Not much has been happening in the room. The temps seem to have went down and stayed down to the 25C highest it has been the last 72 hours was 26 C. Nothing changed, the bulb is a older bulb and I did order a new one just to be sure all is good.
Either way we are still waiting on the swell to happen. I dont see the buds swelling, or at least any visible cylax swelling.
Hairs are either orange/red
Trichomes are either clear or cloudy with exception to the leaves which are cloudy/amber but I am not paying attention to the trichomes on leaves, going by the bud only.
Today we start week #8 (Day 50 of Flower). The last plant I grew the swelling happened during week 6-8 and this time I am doing a Hydro grow, not sure if that makes any difference.
Also the plant has NOT started to change color of the leaves yet. All leaves are green, no signs of any fall colors, but I am guessing when I force the flush on her I will probably see a difference...or maybe not at all...
There are no white hairs visible. All hairs on plant have turned orange/dark red as I said above.
Here are some photos from the past few days I snapped

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Either way we are still waiting on the swell to happen. I dont see the buds swelling, or at least any visible cylax swelling.
Hairs are either orange/red
Trichomes are either clear or cloudy with exception to the leaves which are cloudy/amber but I am not paying attention to the trichomes on leaves, going by the bud only.
Today we start week #8 (Day 50 of Flower). The last plant I grew the swelling happened during week 6-8 and this time I am doing a Hydro grow, not sure if that makes any difference.
Also the plant has NOT started to change color of the leaves yet. All leaves are green, no signs of any fall colors, but I am guessing when I force the flush on her I will probably see a difference...or maybe not at all...
There are no white hairs visible. All hairs on plant have turned orange/dark red as I said above.
Here are some photos from the past few days I snapped

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