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So I've upped her to .8ml/ltr. Will see how she handles that and may increase to 1ml next feeding if she doesn't freak out.

Didn't turn my light down but i raised it just a smidge.

Massive thanks for the input @seymore_budz and @Dex interesting stuff.

Couple pics for the sake of it.


Bigup growmies

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Ah dont worry too much Wu they can take lots more than we like to think especially fully grown plants like that. Looks bang on though mate.

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@seymore_budz thats a great read mate and I'll give it a bash I got told same thing by another grower that can have theirs wuch is similar power to mine on full whack but I seem to kill things, I will try on next grow tho after the auto to go back to 75% onwards and see if just adding more than 20ml to 25ml of AnB... Thanks for that and I love the last line lmao I'd bet my left testicle lmaoooo had me tickled mate lol

Thanks for that tho and I'll bare in mind and try it... Maybe if I keep adding charge to the coco as well as anb might take things to a greener stage?!

I don't think charge will help much as its more of a biostimulant than a food. I'm not too familiar with GHO products, but the end seems to be their "semi organic" offering that's has all of the required biostimulants and other goodies and should be taken up by the plant immediately. 10 10 10 is a little odd IMHO, but it should be just fine. Just give them a little more. I think @GHO recommended up to 2ml/L.

Why odd @seymore_budz ? 10-10-10 just means it's a higher concentration in the solution hence a better dilution rate. Gives people a product that goes further for their money. I'd be keen to hear what your opinion is based on though.
In theory up to 2ml per litre but in practice I've yet to hear of anyone going above 1.2ml per litre at peak requirement.

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@seymore_budz thats a great read mate and I'll give it a bash I got told same thing by another grower that can have theirs wuch is similar power to mine on full whack but I seem to kill things, I will try on next grow tho after the auto to go back to 75% onwards and see if just adding more than 20ml to 25ml of AnB... Thanks for that and I love the last line lmao I'd bet my left testicle lmaoooo had me tickled mate lol

Thanks for that tho and I'll bare in mind and try it... Maybe if I keep adding charge to the coco as well as anb might take things to a greener stage?!

I don't think charge will help much as its more of a biostimulant than a food. I'm not too familiar with GHO products, but the end seems to be their "semi organic" offering that's has all of the required biostimulants and other goodies and should be taken up by the plant immediately. 10 10 10 is a little odd IMHO, but it should be just fine. Just give them a little more. I think @GHO recommended up to 2ml/L.

Why odd @seymore_budz ? 10-10-10 just means it's a higher concentration in the solution hence a better dilution rate. Gives people a product that goes further for their money. I'd be keen to hear what your opinion is based on though.
In theory up to 2ml per litre but in practice I've yet to hear of anyone going above 1.2ml per litre at peak requirement.

@GHO it was just odd as 10 10 10 is more of a general purpose recipe. You don't see that ratio normally in growshops as they're more targeted towards dropping the N mid to late flower. A lot of them also up the K. I suppose thinking about it, 10 10 10 should be pretty solid around 1.2ml/L for flower.

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I don't think charge will help much as its more of a biostimulant than a food. I'm not too familiar with GHO products, but the end seems to be their "semi organic" offering that's has all of the required biostimulants and other goodies and should be taken up by the plant immediately. 10 10 10 is a little odd IMHO, but it should be just fine. Just give them a little more. I think @GHO recommended up to 2ml/L.

Why odd @seymore_budz ? 10-10-10 just means it's a higher concentration in the solution hence a better dilution rate. Gives people a product that goes further for their money. I'd be keen to hear what your opinion is based on though.
In theory up to 2ml per litre but in practice I've yet to hear of anyone going above 1.2ml per litre at peak requirement.

@GHO it was just odd as 10 10 10 is more of a general purpose recipe. You don't see that ratio normally in growshops as they're more targeted towards dropping the N mid to late flower. A lot of them also up the K. I suppose thinking about it, 10 10 10 should be pretty solid around 1.2ml/L for flower.

All depends how you look at it, I've always been of the opinion that a balanced formula is plenty. In soil your plant takes what it needs, but using salts etc in a sips setup I'd replace the feed every so often as you'll find the plants often take more of one thing than another depending on the stage the plants are at any way.
I think there's a lot of bs surrounding what's needed for growing if I'm honest. There's plenty of 'specialist' must have formulas available for base nutrients that leaves the door open to selling veg and flower products separately. I suppose they've got to justify it somehow though.

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Why odd @seymore_budz ? 10-10-10 just means it's a higher concentration in the solution hence a better dilution rate. Gives people a product that goes further for their money. I'd be keen to hear what your opinion is based on though.
In theory up to 2ml per litre but in practice I've yet to hear of anyone going above 1.2ml per litre at peak requirement.

@GHO it was just odd as 10 10 10 is more of a general purpose recipe. You don't see that ratio normally in growshops as they're more targeted towards dropping the N mid to late flower. A lot of them also up the K. I suppose thinking about it, 10 10 10 should be pretty solid around 1.2ml/L for flower.

All depends how you look at it, I've always been of the opinion that a balanced formula is plenty. In soil your plant takes what it needs, but using salts etc in a sips setup I'd replace the feed every so often as you'll find the plants often take more of one thing than another depending on the stage the plants are at any way.
I think there's a lot of bs surrounding what's needed for growing if I'm honest. There's plenty of 'specialist' must have formulas available for base nutrients that leaves the door open to selling veg and flower products separately. I suppose they've got to justify it somehow though.

I completely agree that there is lots of bullshit out there surrounding nutrient requirements and additives. That being said, there has been some quite detailed and well funded studies around what cannabis prefers. And its looking like requirements don't change much between the growth and flowering stages.... if you're not looking to get stoned :)

Of course you have to consider the media. Coco will sequester cations, so you have to adjust for that, but it's looking like cannabis prefers a balanced ratio that doesn't change much throughout its life cycle. However, more research is required as its also looking like what the plants prefer, may not be optimal for what we're looking for as stoners.

There's enough evidence to confidently say that elevated levels of N will reduce secondary metabolite production. There's also anecdotal evidence that salt stress can also have the opposite effect. All of the studies have found correlations between the ratio applied and the results.

My opinion is that there's lots of bullshit out there, but there seems to be a general consensus that adjusting the ratios between the growth stage and flowering stage improves the quality medical cannabis. This is why nearly every supplier that operates within the cannabis market offers a PK booster of some sort. I have no doubt that your product works. At a ratio of 1.2ml/L, ppm would be around 120/50/100. That's pretty spot on for a flowering plant, but it's still an odd ratio to me as you don't see many weed growers using 10 10 10. It kind of goes against the grain when considering other ranges within the same space. That's why I came to the opinion that it was an odd ratio.

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I have a question for you @GHO so i use A&B salts and they`re in 2 bottles for a reason, they dont mix and will separate in their bottled form if mixed which proper fucks lot up, kinda turns into a milky mess in your mix if you dont do it rightly. What is it that's different about these that stops that crap from happening turning it into a milky mess ? Maybe cus they not exactly all chemical salts in your bottle ? Feck knows tbh, but i was just wondering why shit happens with 2 part base ferts and not others that are single bottle ferts. Cheers m8.

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I have a question for you @GHO so i use A&B salts and they`re in 2 bottles for a reason, they dont mix and will separate in their bottled form if mixed which proper fucks lot up, kinda turns into a milky mess in your mix if you dont do it rightly. What is it that's different about these that stops that crap from happening turning it into a milky mess ? Maybe cus they not exactly all chemical salts in your bottle ? Feck knows tbh, but i was just wondering why shit happens with 2 part base ferts and not others that are single bottle ferts. Cheers m8.

It's the production method. Generally speaking mate if you took raw chemical npk in the form you'd buy if from a chemicals producer and mixed them together you'd probably start quite a fire. I think with A and B formulas there's been something else added to retard a chemical reaction that might do that. At a guess I'd suggest that mixing them incorrectly is probably where a third retardant substance activates giving you a milky mess rather than a bad smelling house fire.

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Flower Day 47
Have upped her to 1ml/ltr of The End.
Will be getting about 15ltr of plain water next as she's had 4 feeds in a row and i normally go, feed, feed, water. My own fault for not keeping track.
Have taken out a bunch of foliage (not that you can tell) and buds have started to swell a bit.
Still getting up there, humidity wise
The smell coming off of her seems very sweet/sour to me, almost like a sour milk, but in a good way


Anyhoo, that'll do for the time being.
Cheers for popping in y'all
God bless.

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Don’t ya love when they get sassy she’s beautiful and frosty