Mesphito Sour livers
- kbag
- GR420 Leg End
- Posts: 2389
- Joined: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:09 am
- Has thanked: 3549 times
- Been thanked: 1845 times
- Status: Offline
Mesphito Sour livers
Sour Livers
Project introduction and Overview:
In January of 2015 we set about to create a bx project for our Artisanal collection. To improve the quality of our auto blues and to progress locking down more of the traits from our all time favourite strain into automatic form.
The main project was to use our Auto Blues as the auto parent to back cross to our livers cut and work to auto again over at least 4 generations. (That is also due out soon as the pure Auto livers)
At the same time we decided to make two other crosses for the fun of it, also crossing sour crack and chem city blues to the livers.
Fast forward a little over two years,the work is complete and we're super stoked to launch something that has developed into an astonishingly nice automatic: Sour Livers.
To those unfamiliar, 'The Livers' is an old school cutting that has been kept alive and spread mostly between growers in the North of England since at least the early 90's,
the reason being simple it's incredible as both a commercial producer and as a high quality top shelf head-stash variety. Strains come and go over time, but there's definitely a reason cuttings from this era are still doing the rounds, the exodus cheese, Psychosis, Northern lights to name a few others.
The only slight, if you can call it a downside, of the cutting is the intense level of aroma, and a very distint but delicious aroma that the variety cranks out.
The catch 22 is that often it's impossible to sell any flowers in those areas that aren't this strain because it's all people want and love, but due to the aforementioned odor level it has been referred to as 'prison weed'- but have a good filter and no problemo.:)
It definitely sets the bar for high quality dope.
Mated to our Sour Crack we've blended two of our very favourite strains together, over each generation we selected for the 'livers' aroma and flower structure and the greasy sticky resin that is produced in abundance by the Sour Crack.
Sour livers is positively loaded with terps, everytime you even get close you want to give the flowers a finger hug, and that aroma sticks on your fingers for hours after. Yes, people may look at you strangely perpetually smelling you fingers.
She's a really unique strain, and is way up there in the top strains we have made. Definitely expect to see a few special sour livers based hybrids on the horizon too in 2017.
Strain behaviour and structure:
To cut to the chase the Sour Livers is not a monster large strain. Given her heritage she is far more inline with the Auto-SOG style of plant, But she is a compact bushy variety of top notch quality, and for her size she packs a lot of flowers into a small area.
Give her a smooth ride in the seedling stage and it's plain sailing from there on out, she's not over fussy or finicky and once established will handle good levels of feed.
She absolutely benefits from some leaf tucking to expose those lateral branches she pushes out from early on, and encourage them to grow upwards and you'll be in for a treat of a mini-multicola'd gal.
It's also worth clearing out fluff on the internal and lower parts of the Sour Livers to ensure all energy gets diverted to the primo sites. A very small amount of work in those areas will result in the best possible results.
Variation between phenotypes is minimal, even under hps which can make plants stretch more the end size difference is minimal.
She does respond nicely to some gentle LST if you wish to, but really her natural bushiness makes it uneccesary for the most part.
Sour livers is a quick strain with a low overall cycle time, she switches from seedling to flower very quickly and then full into bud mode very quickly.
The flowers she produces are highly aromatic with an intoxicating scent, she really oozes terps and the resin on her fans sparkles.
The flowers are compact with very nice density, and as a result the end product is properly a looker.
We definitely recommend to ensure your odor control is fully working, as this is one of our smelliest strains. Don't chance it without.
Sour Livers - Strain figures and info in brief:
Indica/Sativa: 80/20
In good conditions she will deliver -
Cycle time: 60-70 days
Size: 45-65cm Height/Width 35-50cm
Yield: 90-120g as a single plant grow
Best method for overall high yield: 12 per 1.2x1.2 space in 12 liter pots under a 600w - 500-600g is easily achievable.
Aroma and flavour: A Sweet/Sour/Fruity/Skunky combination that is very unique.
Effect: A nice balance is possible depending on consumption. Sedative, happy but something you can toke all day long at a good rate. Over indulge and expect couchlock.
Best grown: Indoor/Greenhouse
Flower Density: 8.5/10
Cannbinoids: TBA - Estimated over 20% total cannabinoids
Medicinal qualities: Great for appetite stimulation, aches and pains, and insomnia.
Further info:
Ease of grow - 7/10 - Ensure a good start and it's plain sailing
Aroma level whilst growing - 10/10 Very high - Carbon filter alert
Trim ease - 7/10 - Main buds are very easy
Frost Level - 8/10
Bag Appeal - 9/10 Excellent - compact tough frosty smelly nuggets
After Cure Aroma level - 9/10 - High - double bag worthy
Potency - 9/10 Very high
Concentrate info - 9/10 Rich in terps ideal for rosin, live resin and bubble hash.
Overall Mephisto rating - 10/10 - Easily in our top 5 current strains that we love to grow and toke.
Project introduction and Overview:
In January of 2015 we set about to create a bx project for our Artisanal collection. To improve the quality of our auto blues and to progress locking down more of the traits from our all time favourite strain into automatic form.
The main project was to use our Auto Blues as the auto parent to back cross to our livers cut and work to auto again over at least 4 generations. (That is also due out soon as the pure Auto livers)
At the same time we decided to make two other crosses for the fun of it, also crossing sour crack and chem city blues to the livers.
Fast forward a little over two years,the work is complete and we're super stoked to launch something that has developed into an astonishingly nice automatic: Sour Livers.
To those unfamiliar, 'The Livers' is an old school cutting that has been kept alive and spread mostly between growers in the North of England since at least the early 90's,
the reason being simple it's incredible as both a commercial producer and as a high quality top shelf head-stash variety. Strains come and go over time, but there's definitely a reason cuttings from this era are still doing the rounds, the exodus cheese, Psychosis, Northern lights to name a few others.
The only slight, if you can call it a downside, of the cutting is the intense level of aroma, and a very distint but delicious aroma that the variety cranks out.
The catch 22 is that often it's impossible to sell any flowers in those areas that aren't this strain because it's all people want and love, but due to the aforementioned odor level it has been referred to as 'prison weed'- but have a good filter and no problemo.:)
It definitely sets the bar for high quality dope.
Mated to our Sour Crack we've blended two of our very favourite strains together, over each generation we selected for the 'livers' aroma and flower structure and the greasy sticky resin that is produced in abundance by the Sour Crack.
Sour livers is positively loaded with terps, everytime you even get close you want to give the flowers a finger hug, and that aroma sticks on your fingers for hours after. Yes, people may look at you strangely perpetually smelling you fingers.
She's a really unique strain, and is way up there in the top strains we have made. Definitely expect to see a few special sour livers based hybrids on the horizon too in 2017.
Strain behaviour and structure:
To cut to the chase the Sour Livers is not a monster large strain. Given her heritage she is far more inline with the Auto-SOG style of plant, But she is a compact bushy variety of top notch quality, and for her size she packs a lot of flowers into a small area.
Give her a smooth ride in the seedling stage and it's plain sailing from there on out, she's not over fussy or finicky and once established will handle good levels of feed.
She absolutely benefits from some leaf tucking to expose those lateral branches she pushes out from early on, and encourage them to grow upwards and you'll be in for a treat of a mini-multicola'd gal.
It's also worth clearing out fluff on the internal and lower parts of the Sour Livers to ensure all energy gets diverted to the primo sites. A very small amount of work in those areas will result in the best possible results.
Variation between phenotypes is minimal, even under hps which can make plants stretch more the end size difference is minimal.
She does respond nicely to some gentle LST if you wish to, but really her natural bushiness makes it uneccesary for the most part.
Sour livers is a quick strain with a low overall cycle time, she switches from seedling to flower very quickly and then full into bud mode very quickly.
The flowers she produces are highly aromatic with an intoxicating scent, she really oozes terps and the resin on her fans sparkles.
The flowers are compact with very nice density, and as a result the end product is properly a looker.
We definitely recommend to ensure your odor control is fully working, as this is one of our smelliest strains. Don't chance it without.
Sour Livers - Strain figures and info in brief:
Indica/Sativa: 80/20
In good conditions she will deliver -
Cycle time: 60-70 days
Size: 45-65cm Height/Width 35-50cm
Yield: 90-120g as a single plant grow
Best method for overall high yield: 12 per 1.2x1.2 space in 12 liter pots under a 600w - 500-600g is easily achievable.
Aroma and flavour: A Sweet/Sour/Fruity/Skunky combination that is very unique.
Effect: A nice balance is possible depending on consumption. Sedative, happy but something you can toke all day long at a good rate. Over indulge and expect couchlock.
Best grown: Indoor/Greenhouse
Flower Density: 8.5/10
Cannbinoids: TBA - Estimated over 20% total cannabinoids
Medicinal qualities: Great for appetite stimulation, aches and pains, and insomnia.
Further info:
Ease of grow - 7/10 - Ensure a good start and it's plain sailing
Aroma level whilst growing - 10/10 Very high - Carbon filter alert
Trim ease - 7/10 - Main buds are very easy
Frost Level - 8/10
Bag Appeal - 9/10 Excellent - compact tough frosty smelly nuggets
After Cure Aroma level - 9/10 - High - double bag worthy
Potency - 9/10 Very high
Concentrate info - 9/10 Rich in terps ideal for rosin, live resin and bubble hash.
Overall Mephisto rating - 10/10 - Easily in our top 5 current strains that we love to grow and toke.
- Bulls
- Coco Grower
- Posts: 8605
- Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:39 am
- Location: Cagliari
- Has thanked: 1613 times
- Been thanked: 2876 times
- Contact:
- Status: Offline
Re: Mesphito Sour livers
All sounds good mate. Mephisto got some great genetics and will be great to see another stunning plant.
What light are you planning to use ?
What light are you planning to use ?
Multi Strain Grow Under Harvest 200 Pro LED lights
Orange Chiesel, Runtz, Sour banana Chiesel, Gorilla Glue, Critical - The Battle of the Strains
Forbidden Dream by Humboldt and Blueberry Cookies by Dinafem under CDM Lights - Completed
White Widow by Seed Stockers under CDM Lights - Completed
Orange Chiesel, Runtz, Sour banana Chiesel, Gorilla Glue, Critical - The Battle of the Strains
Forbidden Dream by Humboldt and Blueberry Cookies by Dinafem under CDM Lights - Completed
White Widow by Seed Stockers under CDM Lights - Completed
There is no passion to be found playing small and settling for a life that's less than the one you're capable of living
- kbag
- GR420 Leg End
- Posts: 2389
- Joined: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:09 am
- Has thanked: 3549 times
- Been thanked: 1845 times
- Status: Offline
Re: Mesphito Sour livers
Will be growing these in a cupboard built in one dimensions are 80 x 80cm x over 2m headroom.
These will be grown under led my prakasa 300w cob atm they are vegging under the viparsectra as the cob is my big tent atm
Will be grown in canna coco pro using ionic nutes for coco and pk13/14 and overdrive to finish.
Day 1

Day 12

These will be grown under led my prakasa 300w cob atm they are vegging under the viparsectra as the cob is my big tent atm
Will be grown in canna coco pro using ionic nutes for coco and pk13/14 and overdrive to finish.
Day 1

Day 12

- kbag
- GR420 Leg End
- Posts: 2389
- Joined: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:09 am
- Has thanked: 3549 times
- Been thanked: 1845 times
- Status: Offline
Re: Mesphito Sour livers
Just on a side note some pics of Dinafem Kush N Cheese that were chopped through the this week.






- Bulls
- Coco Grower
- Posts: 8605
- Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:39 am
- Location: Cagliari
- Has thanked: 1613 times
- Been thanked: 2876 times
- Contact:
- Status: Offline
Re: Mesphito Sour livers
Lovely jobly mate. Plenty of high quality smoke there. We shouldn't wonder if you disappear for a week or two lol.
- Keeno
- Registered User
- Posts: 25547
- Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:11 pm
- Has thanked: 11290 times
- Been thanked: 17540 times
- Contact:
- Status: Offline
Re: Mesphito Sour livers
Im really interested in the Mesphito genetics. I have heard and read so many good things. Nice haul on the kush and cheese K, gonna keep you very stoned for some time yet. I will be following with interest buddy.
- Bulls
- Coco Grower
- Posts: 8605
- Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:39 am
- Location: Cagliari
- Has thanked: 1613 times
- Been thanked: 2876 times
- Contact:
- Status: Offline
- camkush
- GR420 Moobs Of The Year
- Posts: 4452
- Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:56 pm
- Location: Pluto
- Has thanked: 2589 times
- Been thanked: 3454 times
- Status: Offline
Re: Mesphito Sour livers
Hey kbag looking good so far! Hope all is well
#5
Roll Tide
#ProtectDiscord
Roll Tide
#ProtectDiscord
- kbag
- GR420 Leg End
- Posts: 2389
- Joined: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:09 am
- Has thanked: 3549 times
- Been thanked: 1845 times
- Status: Offline
Re: Mesphito Sour livers
Many growers fail to realise is it's not how many different items you put into the tank, but what you put in the tank. All too often, growers become excited by the hype and advertising promises instead of taking time to do the one thing that would guarantee their success, learn how to grow.
Growing is not buying a machine where you plug in seeds at one end, a growing medium in the middle, and out pops a completed harvest at the other. This process seems similar to the digestive system, and the results are usually the same. Growing is carefully balancing all the needs of the plant, food, water, light, humidity, temperature, and grower temperament. There is no one solution for any plant, location, environment, situation or grower. A grower has to be hands on and on top of the process from the design of the greenhouse/field / room to selecting the plants, growing on, and harvesting.
The only magic in growing is the grower.
- kbag
- GR420 Leg End
- Posts: 2389
- Joined: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:09 am
- Has thanked: 3549 times
- Been thanked: 1845 times
- Status: Offline
Re: Mesphito Sour livers
The generally accepted guidelines for artificial light PPFD in flowering are this:
in a 12/12
PPFD of at least 510 micromoles/m2/s-1 for the low end of optimal intensity
PPFD of at least 800-1100 micromoles/m2/s-1 for perfect optimal lighting without additional CO2.
PPFD of at least 800-1500 micromoles/m2/s-1 for perfect optimal lighting WITH additional CO2.
in a 12/12
PPFD of at least 510 micromoles/m2/s-1 for the low end of optimal intensity
PPFD of at least 800-1100 micromoles/m2/s-1 for perfect optimal lighting without additional CO2.
PPFD of at least 800-1500 micromoles/m2/s-1 for perfect optimal lighting WITH additional CO2.